eCo

Comments (28)

• encoderaudio · February 21 2018
  Honestly, the most smart idea so far!
  I'll take a look. Can I reach you privately?
• Crampe · February 22 2018
  I'm glad this sweet words are coming from you!
  I've sent you a mail.
• perken · February 22 2018
  Finally ! I have been waiting so long for someone to make this plugin. The only thing is that eco turns the plugins back on when you press play and then does not turn them back off if it receives no incoming signal…
• foule · February 22 2018
  Really Nice one!!!
  Some minors things I noticed :
  don't work correctly on a bus track with reverb
  Minor midi glitches on midi track when using kontakt (don t know it s maybe the time it listens before stop or some..)
  Honestly it s a magic idea, easy and simple. This is a cpu saver when it comes to rec vocals and it s just perfect for it.
• Crampe · February 23 2018
  "The only thing is that eco turns the plugins back on when you press play and then does not turn them back off if it receives no incoming signal?"
  Hi Perken, good catch!
  Reproduced here, only with the eCo-m.
  Actually, with no incoming signal, eCo turns on, not when starting playback, but stopping it. Can you confirm?
  Then it doesn't turned off.
  Fixing this asap, thanks a lot for pointing it out!
• Crampe · February 23 2018
  "don't work correctly on a bus track with reverb
  Minor midi glitches on midi track when using kontakt (don t know it s maybe the time it listens before stop or some..)"
  Hi Foule.
  I can't reproduce here with return track. I'm surprised as that's how I mainly use it for a few years now, and I've never seen any issue in this area. Let me know if you can find a clue.
  about Konktakt. What kind of glitch?
  Due to its nature, the first note of a midi instrument has to be delayed by a very very very little amount of time by eCo, because eCo obviously has to turn the instrument On before sending the incoming notes. This delay should be unnoticeable though.
  If you could be more detailed about your issue, that'd be of a great help.
  cheers
• SquimbellyToes · February 23 2018
  Hello Crampe;
  Brilliant, simple idea - thank you!
  However, I'm having some issues in Live10. At first audio input, eCo and eCo-m successfully turn on and off the device/plugin/instrument.
  But, once turned off, eCo and eCo-m are unable to turn the device/plugin/instrument on again.
  Again, thank you very much - this is a great device.
  S.T.
• foule · February 27 2018
  Hey Crampe,
  So so far no bug or glitches as I reported...
  Maybe it s only with big project that some glitches appear, don't know but right now, it s working good.
  I ll let you know for sure exactly what happens IF it happens again in studio
  Thanks again for this little gold bar
• Crampe · February 28 2018
  Glad to hear that Foule.
• LAEX · June 10 2018
  Really nice device! Default on my midi and audio track now!
• ekaku · July 11 2018
  Awesome device, thank you!
• Kuzma · September 12 2018
  Thank's for this great device!
  Unfortunately, I have some issues with this device on Live 10.0.2:
  1. The device didn't work on group tracks inside my huge template
  (but it works onside basic template)
  2. eCo-m on the midi tracks didn't start working inside my huge template. (but it works onside basic template)
  Could you advise some way to fix it?
  It is an amazing idea & I need it for my set up.
• Crampe · September 14 2018
  v1.4 fixes the "doesn't work inside rack" issue.
• Kuzma · September 19 2018
  Great! Now, after this upgrade, it starts to work inside my big template.
  BUT!!! when I start to play with it inside my project, I have found this issue:
  when I moving from track to track inside session view when I have to play the clip on any track with eco, this track gives glide like delays on the notes every time when I make this move. And no matter what track it will be. Every time I have this sound effects.
  Is it possible to fix it? Could you advice how to prevent it?
  P.S. By the way, I have found that it is better to paste eco device into the rack after switching off target device because only in this case you will open it with off state.
• Crampe · February 07 2019
  Hey Kuzma
  Sorry for the laaaate reply.
  I know with this happens. It only affects eCo-m (midi version).
  I'm going to fix this, but the downside is that when the target instrument is switched off and then eco-m turns it On, the first note might get lost. This isn't a big deal when creating, but you might need to take this into account when performing.
  In theory I'd need to very slightly delay only the 1st note, but atm I haven't found any reliable solution. Maybe I'll find a trick.
• maxisans · March 24 2020
  Hello Crampe,
  Live 10.1.6 here
  It seems the Eco-M device doesnt turn on back by itself, placed before a midi instrument rack.
  Many thanks in advance!
• Crampe · March 26 2020
  Hey Maxisans,
  Any reason why you're still using an old Live version? Are you using the bundled Max or an external one?
  Eco(-M) always stays on, that's the device placed after it that gets turned on/off.
• moserobert · October 14 2020
  Love the device, thank you. The only concern I have is what you mentioned above about the delay with the midi version. Have you found a way to get around this issue? For me, I can't use it when it doesn't play the first note as it is.
• Crampe · October 18 2020
  Hey Moserobert,
  Yeah I understand this concern, and that's why eCo is mainly for production rather than playing Live.
  Maybe I could get around this by forcing the device to add latency, but I have to study the topic first.
• imacactus · November 16 2021
  "As opposed to native Live devices, 3rd party plugins and M4L devices always consume CPU even when idling"
  Is it always the case as of Live 11.0.12 ?
  I have added eCo before multiple VSTi on a ressource-intensive project and didn't notice a decrease of cpu usage, according to Live CPU meter
• Crampe · November 16 2021
  @imacactus
  that's probably because you're using VST3 I suppose. VST3 have a "soft bypass" (or whatever it is called) and L11 can benefit from this.
• fermuscolo · February 06 2022
  Hi Its possible to make this MPE compatible? If I use this on an MPE track the Pith bend controllers are bypassed or not working. Thanks a lot
• Crampe · February 06 2022
  @fermuscolo
  Sure, let's fix this asap!
• Crampe · February 09 2022
  @fermuscolo
  I just sent an MPE compatible update. Check you inbox/spams or download it from Gumroad.
• fermuscolo · February 10 2022
  Hi very apreciated!! Thanks a lot. If I insert eco-m before an "MPE Control" it hangs notes like sustain on or something but If i insert after it works very good.
• Crampe · February 10 2022
  Well, there's no reason to put it before a MPE Control instance, really! Unless you're talking about a rack where MPE Control is the first device?
• Kosro · March 21 2024
  It doesn't seem to work correctly in Live 12. I can manually disable the target device using the X. I will be enabled automatically, like it's supposed to. But the automatic disabling appears to be broken.
• Crampe · March 21 2024
  @Kosro
  Sorry I dropped support for eCo as it's been pretty much useless over the years and computers now being savage beasts.
  But I'll look into it and check what's happening; i'm not giving deadlines though.